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20080311

The Great Gate of Hollister - Solved








We had toured Hollister on two separate occasions before. The mystery of the Great Wall continued to occupy our thoughts over the past year. We decided another trip to Hollister was necessary.

The Hollister Wall
Returning to Hollister found the wall still standing but with no green forest of foliage protecting it from exploration this time. The weeds and prairie grass had not yet recovered from the uncharacteristicly lengthy winter of 2007/08 and investigation of the open area behind the wall was possible. This had been impossible on our earlier trip.

The layout of much of the original building was now clearly visible. The building was much larger than originally thought. Much larger.



Hollister School Storm Cellar
At what appeared to be the rear of the building are concrete steps leading down to a concrete walled cellar room. It’s was probably a storm cellar, a requirement of all early buildings in the American southwest.



Hollister Wall from the west
Standing on what seems the rear foundation and looking back at the standing front wall, the depth of the original building is clear. But since much of the foundation has been dredged up in chunks and piled about, the width is a bit harder to determine but it must have been considerable.

The dip in the foreground is the storm cellar again.




Looking around at the less than 60 residences in this relatively remote Hollister community, it’s clear that they probably live here because they prefer to be undisturbed. Respecting that, it took a trip to Frederick, Oklahoma, the county seat a few miles to the west, to finally find out about this lonely façade standing in the tiny town of Hollister, Oklahoma.

At the court house in Frederick, Oklahoma, the county clerk’s office suggested a visit to the county museum just next door. There we met with the very helpful curator and a perfect example of our friendly Southwestern Character.

She solved all of the mystery. The wall held the front doors of the district school. She even remembered it and located a picture.

Hollister District School
And here it is.

The cornerstone was laid November 14, 1922 and the first school year in the new building was 1923-24. Note the chickens in the lower right corner.

Hollister Class of '26
The following years saw many students attending the combination grade school and high school. By 1963, however attendance to high school classes dropped to less than 40 and the school held classes only for grades 1 through 6.

Apartment buildings - Holister bricks
In 1968 the school was closed after only 46 years of educating children. The building was torn down and the bricks were used to build this row of apartment buildings in Frederick, Oklahoma a few miles away.

Return to Hollister.

So...What is the answer? Why is this still here?

The front entrance of the building, as if in protest to its own loss, resisted all efforts to bring it down. The pillars still stand.

I want my MTV
This building stands about where the chickens are in the above black and white photo of the original building. This is looking straight south.

Turning right and looking straight west would be the vista in the picture just above.






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20070910

The Great Gate of Hollister, Oklahoma



This is the earlier shot. The sun was in front of me so the detail of the structure was obscured.
Gate Great Gate of Hollister
originally uploaded by anyjazz65

The Great Gate of Hollister? Who knows?


In Hollister, Oklahoma, population 60, stands this wall. Brick and stone and concrete. Just this wall. In a small town made up mostly of mobile homes and a post office, there is this wall. At the end of a nearly deserted street, a reminder of something completely forgotten.

It was too late in the day to get a good photograph. I'll have to go back.

view profile soozika says: ... maybe the Romans once paid Oklahoma a visit after all ...?

It sure looks sort of like a naturalistic Magritte ...


view profile anyjazz65 says: Thanks soozika. Magritte! That's true! Romans, not so far-fetched. It has been proven that Vikings roamed the eastern part of Oklahoma in about 600 AD. Why not Romans in the western half?

I have no idea what the original purpose was. Both times I have been there the ground was too muddy to explore the area behind it. I might get some idea of the size of the building or maybe the number of ground floor rooms if the floor is still there. Maybe this wall is all there is. In a town of only 600 residents, no convenience store or gas station or cafe or any public place, it is difficult to find someone to ask about it. And they might not know anyway. It is impossible to imagine the town needing a building of this size for anything.


view profile soozika says: This is so intriguing -- that no one cared to record the history! Sounds like a weird place alright - no gas station, no stores ... no McDonald's even? ;)

The brick structure behind the columns - it would be interesting to know whether this has been erected to prop up the original structure at some later stage or whether it was part of it from the onset. But then, it's an integral part of two columns already ...

Maybe one from-railway-tracks-to-riches wealthy family wanted to erect a memorial and went bankrupt before it could be finished ... or maybe it has something to do with the railway that seems to have been the reason for Hollister coming into existence (or flourishing) in the first place. Hm. I must admit I'm almost tempted to drop the OK Historical Society a line ... with a link to this photo and a big question mark. On the other hand, maybe some things don't need to be known ...... ... ... ? Anyway, I already know more about Oklahoma now than I ever knew ... before lunchtime.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Oklahoma

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tillman_County%2C_Oklahoma

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister,_Oklahoma


view profile Oh Boy (Gary) says: Very nicely done, do you have any idea what it was?

view profile anyjazz65 says: Not a clue. My only guess is that it might have been a hotel for railroad workers in times past. The town does not seem to have ever been very large. There is a grain elevator and a single rail line now. The town is too tiny for a library or a courthouse or a police station. The post office is a small mobile home on the other side of the highway. I don't know. I plan a return trip earlier in the day so I can get a better shot. Maybe I can round up one of the 60 locals who might know what it was and where it went.

view profile Lucky Clov says: Interesting- erected in the manner of a Doric temple. My guess is for the post office, library or other civic bulding. Who knows- could have been a movie set!

view profile anyjazz65 says: Thanks. I MUST go back there. We Googled the town and found absolutely nothing that would tell us about this. The building is just too big for the town. There are currently only 60 residents but it could have been larger in the past I suppose. It would have to be 10 times or more larger to merit a brick building this big. As you can see, the streets are just rocked in lanes. There are as many empty buildings are occupied. The only activity seems to be the minor highway that passes directly through it. There is a grain elevator, a rail siding, a water tower and a tiny post office. Very unusual.

view profile Oh Boy (Gary) says: With the coming of the Katy Railroad, Loveland, Hollister, and Tipton sprouted on the prairie. About the only objections that the settlers in this rich new land had were that Oklahoma was still a territory, and it was at least a two-day trip to Lawton, the county seat, since this was a part of Comanche County then. These situations were remedied by 1907 statehood and the creation of Tillman County, with Frederick as the county seat. Seven bustling towns were thriving in the new county: Davidson, Frederick, and Manitou on the Frisco line, Grandfield, Loveland, Hollister, and Tipton on the Katy. Tillman County entered the twentieth century with great expectations!

view profile anyjazz65 says:

@oh boy photos: Hey that's very informative! Somehow I figured you would know something about it. Your research clears up a lot of suspicions and indeed, questions that I have about the area.

I plan a return trip soon because there was so much recent history just sitting around, waiting.

And thanks for the reminder that Oklahoma is not even a hundred years old yet, barely two and a half generations of people endowed with the fearless spirit of adventure in a quest for happiness and freedom.

My wife, who spent most of her life in England, stands a bit amazed at us. While we marvel at buildings a scant 100 years old that we abandoned, England has many structures 500 or more years old abandoned by the Normans and the Romans. Some of these are still in use.

Thanks to you for your informative comment!

view profile Lucky Clov says: Great to read the info! Thanks!


view profile anyjazz65 says: The wall in Hollister.
I have been wanting to return to Holister for a better shot of this mysterious wall. The chance finally came.
The light was much better on this trip; this is a much better shot.
I still don't know why this is here.


Return to Hollister.
originally uploaded by anyjazz65



view profile soozika says: ... maybe the Romans once paid Oklahoma a visit after all ...?

It sure looks sort of like a naturalistic Magritte ...


view profile anyjazz65 says: Thanks soozika. Magritte! That's true! Romans, not so far-fetched. It has been proven that Vikings roamed the eastern part of Oklahoma in about 600 AD. Why not Romans in the western half?

I have no idea what the original purpose was. Both times I have been there the ground was too muddy to explore the area behind it. I might get some idea of the size of the building or maybe the number of ground floor rooms if the floor is still there. Maybe this wall is all there is. In a town of only 600 residents, no convenience store or gas station or cafe or any public place, it is difficult to find someone to ask about it. And they might not know anyway. It is impossible to imagine the town needing a building of this size for anything.


view profile soozika says: This is so intriguing -- that no one cared to record the history! Sounds like a weird place alright - no gas station, no stores ... no McDonald's even? ;)

The brick structure behind the columns - it would be interesting to know whether this has been erected to prop up the original structure at some later stage or whether it was part of it from the onset. But then, it's an integral part of two columns already ...

Maybe one from-railway-tracks-to-riches wealthy family wanted to erect a memorial and went bankrupt before it could be finished ... or maybe it has something to do with the railway that seems to have been the reason for Hollister coming into existence (or flourishing) in the first place. Hm. I must admit I'm almost tempted to drop the OK Historical Society a line ... with a link to this photo and a big question mark. On the other hand, maybe some things don't need to be known ...... ... ... ? Anyway, I already know more about Oklahoma now than I ever knew ... before lunchtime.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Oklahoma

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tillman_County%2C_Oklahoma

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollister,_Oklahoma


view profile anyjazz65 says: Ah soozika. Thanks for your interest. And thanks for the links too! I should have thought to add those.

It is fascinating, isn’t it?

Even standing a few feet away from this structure I cannot imagine its purpose. I am certain there is a story, even a sensible explanation but it remains a mystery for now. It has the look of some libraries in the mid-west, but the town was never populace enough for a library that size. Also it has the look of schools that some small towns still use. It may have been a hotel for rail road workers as it appears that it possibly had a second storey. But I can find nothing of similar constructions in other, older rail towns. And it is actually quite a distance from the rail line. And you are right; there is no evidence that it was ever a FINISHED building even.
Closed.
It is also on what I would speculate as the edge of the town. It is well off the main state highway and a good distance from the rail line. In most small towns, the main buildings would be right next to one or the other. In this picture you see nothing behind it but open field. The entire town of about 20 residences is behind the camera. This building is on the highway, perhaps four blocks east, directly behind the camera.



As for the history of the state of Oklahoma, the most startling fact for me is that it will be just one hundred years old, November 16, this year. There is so much of the history of the old west still just standing around. This is a fine example.

I promise, on my next trip I will wear some hiking boots and try to get closer. (The current occupants of this field would probably not care to be disturbed.) Maybe I can find a corner stone or something that will help identify it. Also, maybe I can find some activity around a grain elevator over near the rail line and engage in an informative conversation. I will avoid knocking on any of the 20 or so doors in the community. These people probably live in this rather remote, un-commercialized area because they LIKE their privacy. And possibly it might be just as much a mystery to them.

I was hoping by now someone on Flickr might know. But in a town of only 60, it might be a rather slim hope that someone from there would stumble upon this picture. Even the near-by towns are small, a scant few at that. Frederick is probably the largest at a population of above 4,600. The area is largely rural, cotton and cattle land, connected by two-lane state highways.
Closed.
I have looked through historical pictures in books and on web sites at every opportunity; I have not found even a similar building. Here is a more common type building for the era and area.


And in the end, someone will clear it all up and it will be a mystery no more.

Ha! A query to the Oklahoma Historical Society coming from your part of the world; that would be rich. I bet that would make their day.

I see I have used up my morning too. I will probably transfer this to the blog because it is such interesting conversation.


view profile soozika says: Well, Mister -- that's another load of bits and pieces of information ... thanks!

I must look on my US map to find out whether I ever and if yes, where I passed through Oklahoma in 1978 (when I traveled from east to west in 2 months).

Yes, 100 year anniversary in 2007 ... a mere blink by European standards, I guess. Augsburg, arguably one of the oldest cities in Germany (a title which, understandably, is heatedly disputed, but ...) was founded in 15 B.C., Munich ("my" city) in 1158. In England, as your wife probably knows, it's the city of Colchester (43 A.D.). Oh, and in France it's Marseille (600 B.C.). But hey, it's just a different historical path and development ... with all that comes with it.

... I'm still pondering about approaching the OK Hist. Soc. ... if I can't hold myself back, would you mind if I used your picture? And if they can actually solve the mystery, I will first ask you whether you REALLY want to know .... or leave it in the realm of imagination ... :)

To boot :): images.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://pics.city-data.com/...


view profile anyjazz65 says: You are welcome to it! I would love to know the answers and tell the tale of how I found out. It would make a great blog page.

And hey! That is an interesting link! I think anyone interested should follow that. It really tells a lot.

My next trip through there should include some pano shots so one can get a better idea of the remoteness of this quiet little town.


view profile anyjazz65 says:
The wall, from a satellite
Hollister, Oklahoma (Clicking image takes you to Flickr for a larger version)

Look at it in large. You can see the shadow of the pillars. Then zoom back and note the size of the town; six blocks high and four blocks wide and most of that is open field. This must have been a much larger town at one time to need a building that size for anything. In the color version you can just make out the floor plan outlined by dark green trees.


view profile Oh Boy (Gary) says: A very intriguing structure, I am still very curious as to what it was also.


view profile anyjazz65 says: Thanks. Me too. I am hoping someone of the 58 residents of the town has a computer and visits Flickr and visits this stream and then actually SEES this picture....pretty remote chance.


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Closed.

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The date above the door is 1910. There are remains of several painted signs, fading away on the brick. It's maybe the mainstreet of Faxon, Oklahoma. It's a town I have never heard of. We stumbled upon it quite by accident. We were lost on the back roads in the southwest of the state. You can't go looking for these things, you have to let them find you.


Lucky Clov says:
Eerie- ghosts of the past!


anyjazz65 says:
Thanks. I liked how the double screen doors don't match each other and they aren't the same size as the doors behind them.


ed ed says:
this is full of interesting bits and pieces. yes, those doors are odd, and i like the glimpses of old stuff you get through the windows, the xeroc.....something you can see in the original size...the u.s. seems to have so much of this fascinating backroad ruin...


anyjazz65 says:
Thanks. I agree. There is too much. The deteriorating farm family, the gravity of the cities, the loss of rails as the primary mode of transportation, the superhighways, economics...well, I went on farther than I thought I could. There is too much.


Bluepeony says:
Wow! It has seen better days! Nice find!

anyjazz65 says:
Thanks!


elhawk says:
More evocative Americana from days gone by. Good one. Keep 'em coming.


anyjazz65 says:
Thanks elhawk. These poor abandoned buildings line the main streets of many small towns in the southwest. They symbolize the changes, indeed the losses, in the endeavors of uncomplicated people who saw only clear horizons. Progress, our boon and curse took them places they could not foretell. The shifting of our primary mode of transportation changed our maps, our lives. Good, bad? The scale is still swaying. The one pleasant thought is that these old derelict buildings will get at least one more admiring look from me. I see the hopes of families, their livelihood, their lifework and then their losses and fears and finally their resignation and defeat. It is a life cycle captured in brick and mortar. And when I spend a few moments with them, walking up to these structures, touching the corners, the walls, maybe I am showing some respect and admiration for their part in the grand scheme of things. And through a photograph maybe others will see those same things and think about them. And maybe the maps will change again. Thanks again, elhawk. You gave me a productive morning.





Gate
Originally uploaded by anyjazz65.

Who knows?

In Hollister, Oklahoma, population 60, stands this wall. Brick and stone and concrete. Just this wall, the rest of the building is gone. In a small town made up mostly of mobile homes and a post office, there is this wall. At the end of a nearly deserted street, a reminder of something completely forgotten.


oh boy photos says:
Very nicely done, do you have any idea what it was?


anyjazz65 says:
Not a clue. My only guess is that it might have been a hotel for railroad workers in times past. The town does not seem to have ever been very large. There is a grain elevator and a single rail siding now. The town is too tiny for a library or a courthouse or a police station. The post office is a small bilding the size of a mobile home on the other side of the highway. I don't know. I plan a return trip earlier in the day so I can get a better shot. Maybe I can round up one of the 60 locals who might know what it was and where it went.


Lucky Clov says:
Interesting- erected in the manner of a Doric temple. My guess is for the post office, library or other civic bulding. Who knows- could have been a movie set!

anyjazz65 says:
Thanks. I MUST go back there. We Googled the town and found absolutely nothing that would tell us about this. The building is just too big for the town. There are currently only 60 residents but it could have been larger in the past I suppose. It would have to be 10 times or more larger to merit a brick building this big. As you can see, the streets are just rocked in lanes. There are as many empty buildings as are occupied. The only activity seems to be the minor highway that passes directly through it. There is a grain elevator, a rail siding, a water tower and a tiny post office. Very unusual.


oh boy photos says:
With the coming of the Katy Railroad, Loveland, Hollister, and Tipton sprouted on the prairie. About the only objections that the settlers in this rich new land had were that Oklahoma was still a territory, and it was at least a two-day trip to Lawton, the county seat, since this was a part of Comanche County then. These situations were remedied by 1907 statehood and the creation of Tillman County, with Frederick as the county seat. Seven bustling towns were thriving in the new county: Davidson, Frederick, and Manitou on the Frisco line, Grandfield, Loveland, Hollister, and Tipton on the Katy. Tillman County entered the twentieth century with great expectations!

anyjazz65 says:
@oh boy photos: Hey that's very informative! Somehow I figured you would know something about it. Your research clears up a lot of suspicions and indeed, questions that I have about the area. I plan a return trip soon because there was so much recent history just sitting around, waiting. And thanks for the reminder that Oklahoma is not even a hundred years old yet, barely two and a half generations of people endowed with the fearless spirit of adventure in a quest for happiness and freedom. My wife, who spent most of her life in England, stands a bit amazed at us. While we marvel at buildings a scant 100 years old that we abandoned, England has many structures 500 or more years old abandoned by the Normans and the Romans. Some of these are still in use.Thanks to you for your informative comment!


Lucky Clov says:
Great to read the info! Thanks!

I had to include the whole conversation. The thoughts and information is so meaningful.

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